As I'm still banned from the Wigan forum, perhaps someone could move this post from here to there



Anyway, young Sam. Man of Steel everyone said a few weeks ago. Looked nothing of the sort in the play offs. Seemed to be limping throughout the first round when walking and again tonight. It's as if he can't bend his back properly. He walks like I used to the day after I went to the gym and had jelly legs.

Is he injured on the sly? I can understand the Goons not publicising that fact, it would have been music to the opposition's ears.

It would be bad new for England if he was injured.

Would indeed. Wouldn't surprise me if he was now booked in for an operation we never knew about.

Just didn't seem right to me. I don't think the refusal to take the ball up once he receives kicks is entirely tactical either, there were a few where if he beat one man he'd have been away, but he had no interest in it.

He's clearly been carrying a knock for some time.

And your clearly not banned. Stop playing the victim.

He definitely took a knock the other week against us and I wonder if he's carrying something still from that. We definitely need him if only to give him the experience of playing against the world's best.

We aren't missing you



When does your ban end anyway?

Tomkins has done nothing in international games. We don't lose much without him. He's shown before that he's unable to step up at the highest level.

He looked worse in the game at the DW than he did last night, I think and hope he'll be OK for England.

So we should write him off at 21 then?

He's played a grand total of 3 games at FB for England. Are you expecting him to have ripped up trees?!

Yes, because that's the average RL fan mindset. If it doesn't work straight away, it's rubbish and should be discarded.

Sam Tomkins 8 Games 7 Tries

The question was about his fitness, not about your opinion of how well he plays, which by the way is bitter and twisted and a little bit sick sounding. I reckon he hasn't been fully fit since playing Warrington in the CC. He took more punishment against the Sts in the semi and probably needed resting but C'est la vie.