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| Hi. I am putting this here for people to draw their own conclusions. First posted in WT Northstanders by myself - Phil Townsend.
For clarity, the Trust that WMDC think aren't fit for purpose are:
Me - WT Supporters Trust board member; Spokesman for SWAG; Founder member and Ex-Chairman of WiSCA
Ian Bramley - WT Supporters Trust Chairman
Jonathan Stone - Chair of the Trust and Founder of Residents for NM. Rhinos fan!
MIchael Carter - WT Chairman and majority shareholder
Chris Brereton - WT Director and shareholder
Eric Timmins - former Director of WT and original member of the Trust
David Hichcliffe - former MP for Wakefield and lifelong WT fan.
The business of CB and MC stands to benefit from this deal as Tenants of an improved facility only, but the rest are doing this with nothing to benefit whatsoever.
The Stadium is due to be 'owned' but the Trust, with the land leased on a Peppercorn rent from the landowner (88m), such that it cannot be used to the financial benefit of the club or any individual or group.
CB and MC have stated that they will resign from the Trust, at the moment the Stadium is completed and it becomes an operational process.
The board have invited representatives from WMDC to join as well as approaching the RFL to appoint someone.
We are open to further suggestions, but they will need to demonstrate a benefit to the process.
The Trust will apply from Charitable status upon achieving a turnover in excess of £5k. We currently operate on minimal cost.
Past members of the Trust include Ted Richardson, who was involved in its establishment, Andrew Glover and James Elton, as well as SRW.
The Trust was put together with agreement between the Club and WMDC and Sir Rodney Walker appointed to oversee the process.
Sir Rodney Walker oversaw the appointment of myself and Jonathan Stone, followed by MC and CB and then latterly Ian Bramley. Therefore, all of the board, that SRW walked away from, were appointed under his reign, meaning that he must have considered that we 'added value' to the process at that point.
We make no apology for the WT bias in this. The Inspectors report from the Public Inquiry for NM is very clear in that there is a 'Very Urgent' need for a new Stadium for Wakefield Trinity, and this represented the 'special circumstances' to allow the removal of 95ha of land from Greenbelt into Industrial land
I present this information so that those - both Wakey Supporters and others, be it RL supporters or not - can make a more informed opinion of who is acting in good faith in this process!
Please feel free to share this information across other platforms.
Thank you.
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| For clarity you appear to say that in return the club would be charged a peppercorn rent providing it is not used for the financial benefit of the club.
This would suggest we get the ground for free but cannot make any money from its use.
This does not appear to match the suggestion that the club want all the revenue and retain the peppercorn rent.
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| Why not pop round and see Phil, get the full details, join the trust, and lead us all to salvation?
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| Quote Daddycool="Daddycool"Why not pop round and see Phil, get the full details, join the trust, and lead us all to salvation?'"
No clarification then, if my assumption is wrong just say so.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"For clarity you appear to say that in return the club would be charged a peppercorn rent providing [uit is not used for the financial benefit of the club.
[/uThis would suggest we get the ground for free but cannot make any money from its use.
This does not appear to match the suggestion that the club want all the revenue and retain the peppercorn rent.'"
I think that refers to the land rather than the fabric of any stadium.
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| Quote Daddycool="Daddycool"Why not pop round and see Phil, get the full details, join the trust, and lead us all to salvation?'"
Edited.............Check the AUP before you type Vastman. Poptart
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"No clarification then, if my assumption is wrong just say so.'"
Assumptions are usually wrong but don't let that stop you.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"No clarification then, if my assumption is wrong just say so.'"
That's a no, I have no desire to reveal myself then?
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| You can all read what does it say, I know you could say the land but are we not looking to run a business on that land.
I find a reference to bile from Vastman quite funny considering most of his posts are the apotheosis of bile.
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| The thread title is 'Clarity'.
Think I am clear regards the content of TRB's post,except for one thing.
Is it the actual land the club cannot gain/profit from ,but as someone alluded to would be able to utilise the actual stadium to generate income.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"You can all read what does it say, I know you could say the land but are we not looking to run a business on that land.
I find a reference to bile from Vastman quite funny considering most of his posts are the apotheosis of bile.'"
He has a point, you only post re: ground issues and obviously have a hidden agenda, yet you have zero desire to
reveal yourself (your choice, I accept that) but can't expect to be taken seriously as you aren't here as a 'proper' Trinity
supporter are you?
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| Quote Wildthing="Wildthing"He has a point, you only post re: ground issues and obviously have a hidden agenda, yet you have zero desire to
reveal yourself (your choice, I accept that) but can't expect to be taken seriously as you aren't here as a 'proper' Trinity
supporter are you?'"
At the end of the day all that matters is the club not any personal vendettas. I asked the question for clarification because it does not agree with what some believe.
With regard my support I have watched the team for over 40 years. I was there before the ground was moved and the stands pulled down. I remember the two girls who stood behind the posts.
You are correct I am only interested in the club because that is permanent the rest of us including those in charge are only caretakers for the time we are here.
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